Comments on: Perrow Wins Billabong Pipe Masters, Florence Takes Vans Triple Crown

By: antman

antman — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:13:25 +0000

um i disagree you dont need more judges they can all keep there jobs,just dont pull out silly official scores during each heat,bring out the official scores after each heat after annalising the top waves ridden,the new scale system makes no sense for example if someone actually has a great wave in the first 10 seconds of a heat and not long after they score it a 9.5 then in the last 10 seconds of the heat someone gets a ride which is vastly better and gets scored not much higher than 9.5 means it makes no sense,there just playing around with numbers,let the guys surf and determine the winner not in the way its done now,its old silly system.

By: antman

antman — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:59:01 +0000

yes well just another heat handed to slater.He should retire out of respect as he is given so many heats.But whether its corrupt or just really bad old dumb scoring system or both combined,the fact is they need to bring the judging system into the future.Its simple just let the guys surf there heat determine the best 2 rides from both surfers and compare the four rides to oneanother at the end of the heat,instead of putting out these completely silly dumb scores,surfing will never become a mainstream sport with a old dumb system like they use now.

By: SVD

SVD — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:25:42 +0000

On the one hand, I agree that the contest directors made an iffy call running the final day on Saturday — with only a few hours needed to finish off the contest, it seems like they could have gone on hold and waited for the next forecast swell the following weekend. And I also agree that JJs 6.5 was low for a wave that probably only two other surfers in the contest would have attempted, let alone made. But that’s past history now. One thing I would say is hats off to John John — he could have won his heat with Kelly by sitting on him at the end, but instead he took off on that beast with the confidence that he was going to better his 7.0 score … in other words, he surfed against Kelly and didn’t just use priority to win. One of the commentators called it a “rookie mistake” but I’ll call it world-class surfing. JJ did Hawaii proud this season, is already a Pipe Master even without the trophy — he was by far the best surfer in the water this year; (though I’m glad for KP too … he earned it), and I can’t frickin’ wait to see JJ at Tavarua and Teheapoo this year.

By: Charles Duran

Charles Duran — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:40:51 +0000

Well that’s the point right, if the conditions are not right then you should put the contest on hold. SO if the conditions would have been bad for the final then don’t hold it. Also, one way to remediate the problem of the judging may be to increase the amount of judges and also to vary their country of origin to cover possibly the countries represented by the contestants. Something like what is done in the Olympics. Anyways it’s gotten to the point now where it’s pretty huge amount of cash resting on the calls, so maybe it’s worth it.

peace

By: tim g

tim g — Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:33:17 +0000

if you ask me, i think it was one of the better judged contest of the year. there was some wierd scoring,( i thought JJF 9.7 was better than kellys 9.7) but they score the two guys in the heat, not against the guys in any other heat! i don’t really agree with that but its still fair. and if they ran the comp an hour later, the final would have been in even worse conditions.

By: Charles Duran

Charles Duran — Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:17:40 +0000

Firt would like to say that starting off the contest in JOB and Joel’s heat in poor conditions like that was a bad call. Its the last contest of the year, pipeline for goodness sake.., and you have the legends of surfing waiting to go.. give them some better conditions! Also, was good to watch the surfing, but some of the worst judging I have seen in any contest. One of Joel’s waves at Backdoor was scored at a 6.5, but then the wave that John John cought at the end of his heat with Kelly was a 6.4, which was obviously more technical then the 6.5 of Joel’s. And I dont understand why Kelly got the score on his last wave if he fell at the end, I mean thats normally a slight deduction but it was still a good heat. Overall I think that I can understand the frustration of alot of surfers in not being scored correctly. Kelly, if he retires, should join the board at ASP and make some changes on the calling system as far as when to start contests, and how the judging works. I dont argue much but those points. Hats off to the surfers, would like to have seen JOB’s performance if the oontest would have started one hour later. It was pipeline, not a california shore break.

By: bernardo

bernardo — Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:50:57 +0000

well done! he was the best surfer out there! big congrats!